www.comsat-ak.blogspot.com: October 2012

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Alternate Title: Is there a God? A Personal Journey

(spanning many years)

A Personal History: Catholic until 18; atheist until 25; pantheist

until 30. Became a deist at 30 and has just become a contented

deist who deeply respects the Judeo-Christian Tradition as part

of the Western Tradition.

The Anthropic Principle made famous in '73 can be restated as the

Law of Human Existence. Our existence and that of the universe

itself depends on numerous cosmological constants and

parameters. - whose numerical values must fall within a very

narrow range of values. If even a single variable was off, even

slightly, galaxies and us wouldn't exist. The improbability of

of the universe existing is the Anthropic Principle. The laws of

nature (physics) are so arranged that life and consciousness are

possible.

Take protons which are 1836 times more massive than electrons,

if it were a little bigger or smaller we would not exist.

Amazingly, they are of extremely different mass and, yet, their

charges are equal (but opposite). Planets and you depend on

this balance.

If the BIG Bang or subsequent inflation were minutely faster or

slower there wouldn't be the quantum fluctuations that enabled

matter to congeal - the universe would be a humongous

homogenous cloud or it what have collapsed on itself shortly

after the bang.

Life on earth would not be possible if earth were closer or further

from the sun or if it were too near the core or the edge of our

Galaxy.

Our magnetic field protects us - good thing it isn't stronger or

weaker.

Halloween - do you want scary? Our atmosphere is 21%

oxygen. a few percent less and we wouldn't be able to

breath; a little more and anything ignited would burst into

flame, including, us --- any organic material ignited would

burn out-of-control.

Does this mean that there is a God?

URANIA (English pronunciation: Your-Anus) MOONS YOU*

aka PLATO's* MAN in the CAVE Series Resumes***

by Richard DePersio with Citizen Journalist

Is there a God? In the name of full disclosure: CJ is a deist

of the traditional variety**** (Reminder: This comsat was

always about astronomy and philosophy/theology. Herein, we

attempt to combine the two.

Atlas shrugged. Atlas: "BIG deal, humans named one rocket

after me - albeit an important one -- but it is still one. Originally,

it was an intercontinental ballistic missile. The Redstone

missile was modified for the U.S.'s first manned program in

the '60s. Project Mercury consisted of six one-man missions.

The first two were sub-orbital and employed the Redstone.

Mine was the more powerful intercontinental missile and

modified for the four orbital flights. It was so exciting that I

nearly dropped the earth from my shoulder! A family of launch

vehicles, the Atlas 5 is still in service. My namesake has sent

probes to the moon and Mars, and has placed communication

and military satellites into earth orbit, including,

geosynchronous orbit.

Urania: "As Reagan famously said 'There he goes again.'

Doesn't Hermes have enough room at

www.quasarpolitical.blogspot.com ! Rockets aren't part of

astronomy. Why must he invade my space? Philosophy? I

don't like it but I wouldn't say it to Plato's face.

Lucky Strike!?! (CJ quit smoking cold turkey three years ago).

Earth One was struck by Orpheus: a Mars-sized object. It

struck at just the right angle and speed to create a ring of

debris which would coalesce to form our moon. The ring

formed just outside the Roche Limit; a little closer and

earth's gravity would have prevented it from coalescing -

the material would have spiraled into the earth. Earth's tidal

forces have caused the moon to move outward to its present

locale.

Our moon isn't the largest moon but it is the largest

compared to the size of its planet: about 1/4 earth's size. It

is responsible for retaining the earth's inclination of 23

degrees; earth's axis is tilted. Otherwise, it would gyrate

wildly over hundreds of thousands or millions of years

from 0 to 90 degrees like Mars. It is doubtful that

hominids or humans could have survived such drastic

climatic changes. More fundamentally, according to

scientists the creation of DNA required hundreds of

millions of years of climatic stability

Further, it is likely that the moon has been in the right

place at the right time in its orbit to take blows for us

from comets, asteroids and large pieces of asteroids.

There might have been more mass extinctions in the past.

Also, Jupiter is the right size and right distance to have

intercepted comets headed for earth or deflected comets,

prevented our extinction.

(Did these things occur by pure chance!?!).

Orpheus****: "It is indeed an honor and a pleasure to visit. I

have my lyre. Who's in charge here: Urania, Plato, Rick or

CJ. I would like permission to sing my praises."

There is also an asteroid Orpheus with a one in 10,ooo

chance of striking earth over the next 100 years and doing

regional damage.

Orpheus: "Pardon me." Atlas: "I can't deal with it. Do you

know who I am!" Urania: There is a small moon very near

the Ring A of Saturn called Atlas and it is said that you

have the ring on your shoulder. This should serve as some

consolation." Atlas: "I'll muse on it."

(Is this an ADD-ed article!?!)

Most Biblical experts maintained that Jesus was hijacked by

Saint Paul and the Roman Emperor Constantine. Both of

who didn't know Jesus and both of whom call themselves 'The

13th Apostle; both of whom had visions.

Paul was more educated than the Apostles having come

from a fairly well-to-do Jewish family and enjoying a

successful tent business. His education on the Jewish faith

would have been superior. In all likelihood he would have

been taught Greek philosophy and ancient mythologies,

including, Greek. While the Apostles spoke Hebrew or Arabic,

he would have spoken those languages plus Greek and

Latin.

Jesus was crucified. The Apostles continued to be

practicing Jews: reciting Jewish prayers, celebrating Jewish

holy days, performing Jewish ceremonies; just like Jesus had.

They were called Ebonites; we might call them Jewish-

Christians. They also taught the teachings of Jesus whom they

thought was the Messiah not the Son of God.

(Remember Christians: Strange Bedfellows - CJ is a member

of the Christian "Alliance Defending Freedom." You need not be

offended. We are a Christian nation with a strong Judeo-

Christian component).

Paul changed all that: declaring that Jesus was the Son

of God and enabling pagans to become followers of Jesus

without becoming Jews.

James headed the Ebonites after Jesus' crucifixion.

Protestants consider him to be Jesus' half-brother while

Catholics - Roman and Easter Orthodox - don't. A few of the

Apostles, including, Peter came to agree with Paul but most

didn't.

By about 300 A.D. there were various Pauline Christian

groups, Ebonite groups and Gnostic (with a Jesus component)

groups.

(More info on early Christianity in other installments of "Plato's

Cave).

Constantine made Christianity legal and took the largest

Pauline group and ordered the other groups to merge with it.

Those that refused remained underground and vanished

after a few hundred years. He made the new large group the

Roman Catholic Church. He authorized a New Testament

which contains the letters that Paul wrote, Paul's activities,

Paul's interpretation of Jesus' philosophy. As a matter of

fact nearly 2/3 is Paul.

The odds of there having been a BIG Bang our astronomically

small.

Space (time was a spatial dimension, later becoming non-spatial,

consequentially, no beginning of time). Space wasn't empty

but contained dark energy in which

particles and their corresponding anti-particles formed and

within an unbelievably small fraction of a second annihilated

each other. Once in a blue moon somehow some particles

and anti-particles survived until there were enough to create

a BIG Bang. But there were slightly more particles than

anti-particles, therefore our universe consists of matter and

not anti-matter. Space isn't empty but contains this dark energy.

It's the nature of things. Physicists claim that they aren't

violating the law of physics that states that you can't get

something from nothing!!!

The Bible is chock full of visions/prophecies and miracles.

Why would God create laws of nature in order to violate

them!?! Wouldn't He create a universe in which He could

operate without violating His own work??? Would he even

interfere at all?

Not too hot, not too cold, just right: Goldilocks.

Idealism or Immaterialism: minds and ideas are all that there

is. Physicalism or Materialism: bodies and matter are all

there is. Just Right/The Middle Ground like our fine-tuned

universe - Dualism: Mental and Physical; Mind and Matter.

The first is silly. The second would be the winner except for

the way it deals with fine-tuning. The last leads to soul/

spirit and body.

Article ADD-ed?

Pandora/Eve and Gilgamesh and Noah and much more (See

other Plato Man in the Cave installments). The Bible is better

when not taken literally but philosophically and as a guide for

good human behavior.

The God of the Old Testaments is petty and cruel while the

Son doesn't take after the Father and, yet, they are one

and the same: multiple personalities. Cruelty: God acts in

mysterious ways. Evil is evil whether committed by God or

Human. An example: killing babies in flood. How did they

cross God. Drowning is one of the worst ways to die. They

barely enjoyed living and then went to hell! According to

New Testament: Jesus descended into hell to give those

who lived before He came to earth a chance to follow Him.

It means babies were in hell along with the first born sons

of the Egyptians. Catholic Church invented limbo to get

around the problem but Bible doesn't say babies or anyone

who lived prior to the coming of Jesus went to limbo. CC

invented Purgatory. Protestants object to these creations.

Bible as word of God: flat earth; immobile earth; no

evolution and extinctions; heaven as invisible firmament not

that far above our heads; hell below; belief in ghosts. God

wrote Bible through humans. Religious Person: Humans

misunderstood. Why couldn't God transmit more clearly?

Religious Person: God wanted humans to discover certain

facts on their own. Excuses

We are a Christian nation. Churches do a better job at

helping the needy than does the government. Churches

generate a sense of community. The Founding Fathers and

Founding Docs were one part Judeo-Christian- and one

part Enlightenment- inspired. When our nation was founded

99% identified themselves as Christian while today it is 70%

B.O. is wrong to state that we are a nation of Christians, Jews,

Muslims, etc, believers and non-believers. He is attacking

our very core: WESTERN CIVILIZATION!!!

CJ: "This one is for Urania: "Urania Upset" (one-level down)

revisited...We described the theory of star formation. In some

cases, it is triggered by a supernova explosion. In a majority

of cases, it is triggered by luck. Random motion: eddies and

steams of particle coming from difference directions. Either

way, very small clumps form allowing attraction via electro-

static force.

We would like to add: density waves. Star formation takes

place in the spiral arms of spiral galaxies. Think of a water

wave. The water moves up and down - horizontally; the energy

promulgates - vertically. A ball would bop up and down. Why?

The water molecules are moving thus. In the case of clouds

of gas and dust the energy in the density wave is presently

where the arm is located causing some interstellar dust and

gas to form clouds of dust and gas - where new stars are born.

Nowadays, scientists place faith in numbers with little or no

supporting observational or experimental evidence. Math.

speculation as fact short-circuiting the Scientific Method (See

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